Comments on: The movement needs to pull it together… and fast Online HQ for the April 15th Nationwide Tax Day Tea Party Rallies... 2010-01-29T19:37:08Z WordPress http://taxdayteaparty.com/2010/01/the-movement-needs-to-pull-it-together-and-fast/feed/atom/ By: Spiking Spiking http://taxdayteaparty.com/?p=4235#comment-35850 2010-01-08T23:34:47Z 2010-01-08T23:34:47Z Spiking,

So you’re saying no one from either party has stepped up asking to be vetted. No one to take these Tea Party voters to the polls and gain the House, the Senate and the Presidency. It doesn’t sound much like the usual politician, but maybe they are so confident that we will simply feel obligated to vote and that we will vote for those that are presented to us. It would seem that is the story for the media.
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The pressure must be enormous on them. Minute by minute, more people learn about the Tea Party manifesto:

1. Taxpayer approval of spending
2. Instant Run-off voting
3. $100K seed money for new candidates
4. Not being forced to pay for GM cars!

The American people will drive stakes through the hearts of the DC politicians, if that’s what it takes. Figuratively speaking, of course, but you can feel the tension and the anger.

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By: Paul P Paul P http://taxdayteaparty.com/?p=4235#comment-35846 2010-01-08T23:20:00Z 2010-01-08T23:20:00Z Spiking,

So you’re saying no one from either party has stepped up asking to be vetted. No one to take these Tea Party voters to the polls and gain the House, the Senate and the Presidency. It doesn’t sound much like the usual politician, but maybe they are so confident that we will simply feel obligated to vote and that we will vote for those that are presented to us. It would seem that is the story for the media.

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By: Spiking Spiking http://taxdayteaparty.com/?p=4235#comment-35839 2010-01-08T21:55:44Z 2010-01-08T21:55:44Z Paul P says:
January 8, 2010 at 2:28 pm
At this point, it appears as if promoting a third party, a Tea Party Candidate would be best towards the accomplishment this task. But I must ask, is there time? Do we truly have the ability to mobilize, agree upon our candidates and raise the tremendous amount of funding necessary to accomplish a third party victory?
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It would be best to transform the Democratic and Republican parties. We are publicizing the Tea Party manifesto to the best of our ability:

1. Taxpayer approval of spending
2. Instant Run-off voting
3. $100K seed money for new candidates
4. Not being forced to pay for GM cars!

We have had no response yet.

People are going to run out of patience. I really don’t believe funding will be a problem. If our ideas are good enough to take the House, the funding will be there.

Watch out if the Tea Party manifesto gets into more media outlets.

Be prepared to run for the House, or support those who are.

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By: Paul P Paul P http://taxdayteaparty.com/?p=4235#comment-35825 2010-01-08T19:28:46Z 2010-01-08T19:28:46Z Eric,

It seems to me that you are again trying to herd the cats.

Please understand that my initial comment was not to condone the same old actions of anyone within the existing parties. Yet, my instincts do lead me to believe there is likely a candidate within the GOP who shares our values, and will honestly and faithfully promote them.

Mr. Andrew Dodge mentions the difficulty with fundraising, he mentions the past effects on elections from a third party and also demonstrates that in spite of our efforts, bills keep moving through. These are the very same difficulties that I perceive and believe are the difficulties which slow our progress towards immediate correction of the “crisis in Washington”.

The Obama administration and his Democratic Party Leaders are well aware of the election losses they will suffer due to their recent actions. Speaker Pelosi implied that the anticipated losses are acceptable losses. They don’t care. They are not listening to us. They only ridicule and try to minimalize us. They are only listening to Barack Obama. As long as they get his bills passed and do so before anyone can stop them, they will continue on this path without guilt. They will persist in fundamentally transforming America right up until they are removed from office.

I believe, the speed with which we must act, must match the speed with which they are transforming America. We must get organized, put forth candidates both nationally and locally, fully move into the fray, and stop this crisis now.

At this point, it appears as if promoting a third party, a Tea Party Candidate would be best towards the accomplishment this task. But I must ask, is there time? Do we truly have the ability to mobilize, agree upon our candidates and raise the tremendous amount of funding necessary to accomplish a third party victory?

Or. Can we court and then vet certain existing candidates to perhaps fill the seats in the House and the Senate in 2010 and then the Presidency in 2012? Can we then promote Tea Party candidates from within the movement for local seats, knowing they will faithfully adhere to our values.

We are a recognized political force. A force which is willingly or unwillingly acknowledged by both the media and by those in office. We can become the force which first causes the GOP to discard the routine antics of Washington and to adopt Tea Party values. Then we may become the force which transforms the Grand ol Party into The Tea Party.

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By: Steve Ward Steve Ward http://taxdayteaparty.com/?p=4235#comment-35801 2010-01-08T14:53:19Z 2010-01-08T14:53:19Z Killing the Obamacare bill is one thing, but what about Climategate?

To bring everyone up to speed, Prior to the Copenhagen Summit on Global Warning, someone (Praise god for this brave individual, and Lord protect him/her!) had gotten on their server and retrieved or intercepted email to and between the scientists who keep track of a fictitious world-wide warming trend, and apparently sent them out to news sources (ones that could be trusted).

These scientists were omitting data being sent to them for their computations on the so called climate crisis because it would skew their results and graphs from exposing the real truth: That Global Warming was a scam! Our country has been defrauded of over a trillion dollars of tax-payer money!

You won’t find this in the liberal media, simply because they are “liberal”. Conservative media will educate you. You can Google it, but, bear in mind that Al Gore is on the board of directors of Google (or so I’ve been told).

Think of all the rules and regs of the EPA,the laws passed in Congress, that have caused businesses at least millions of dollars of become political acceptable by these “gods of the air”. Think also of the “Cap and Trade” bill that the liberals in Congress were trying to (and still trying to) slap onto the backs of over-burdened taxpayers!

Since the liberal media won’t headline this great hoax (assuming that they would ever print anything at all about it), most folks don’t know much, if anything, about it.

My request is, if it hasn’t already been done, to educate the general public of Climategate: “The Big Lie”. Cap and Trade has only been put on a back-burner until after the fall elections so the incumbents can get back into office.

Let’s let Congress and the President know that “The truth is out there.”, and it has noting to do with the X-files!

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By: Philip H Moore Philip H Moore http://taxdayteaparty.com/?p=4235#comment-35796 2010-01-08T10:29:54Z 2010-01-08T10:29:54Z I’m going to repeat a post I left in response to consideration of a 3rd party because it is an issue here.

In addition we need to consider the issue of FRAUD which was mentioned in a previous post on this issue. You can bet THEY WILL CHEAT in the upcoming election; this must be addressed at every State level. Republican Governors will be a big help; in the absence we need to find incumbent State legislators who can help us with impending fraud. Watch for Demon legislation, Federal and State, which gives the vote to illegals, convicts, dead people, people who can vote multiple times, etc. Just review what was done in 2008. Lawyer up with lawyers who love the flag more than money. They don’t have to help pro-bono but they can cut their usual fees and we can feed them!

Now I want to share the post I left concerning a 3rd party:

I am a life long Conservative Republican who is certainly not pleased with everything done (or not done) by my party
during decade 1 of the 2000’s. However, a third party is not the answer for many reasons already stated. What I would
suggest is the following:

If you are a good conservative or constitutionalist, for heaven’s sake don’t run as a Demoncrat! Have you seen what
they did with Liebermann and his wife? Nobody is strong enough to resist their pressure; they are tyrants and they
would just as well see you and your family in a dumpster than have you vote in opposition to what they want.

Go for any open Republican seat.

Vet each Republican incumbent and decide whether you should battle him/her in the primary, especially if the
incumbent is a RINO.

If it doesn’t look good in the primary against a RINO incumbent, run as an independent but let people know you are
Republican minded, Conservative, and against everything Demoncrats and RINO Republicans represent.

Support every true, honest, active, conservative Republican incumbent you can within your State or outside.

P.S. Demoncrat is NOT misspelled.


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By: Mary Alice Mary Alice http://taxdayteaparty.com/?p=4235#comment-35776 2010-01-08T03:00:10Z 2010-01-08T03:00:10Z The Tea Party strikers in Jan
Are out to offer a plan;
Stop supporting the Commies or we’ll tell your mommies,
And you’ll end up grounded again.

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By: New Generation Warriors New Generation Warriors http://www.meetup.com/New-Generation-Warriors-Anti-New-World-Order/ http://taxdayteaparty.com/?p=4235#comment-35734 2010-01-07T14:55:22Z 2010-01-07T14:55:22Z Join the fight! Only in unity can we survive.

http://www.meetup.com/New-Generation-Warriors-Anti-New-World-Order/

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By: New Generation Warriors New Generation Warriors http://www.meetup.com/New-Generation-Warriors-Anti-New-World-Order/ http://taxdayteaparty.com/?p=4235#comment-35733 2010-01-07T14:54:31Z 2010-01-07T14:54:31Z Join the fight…only in unity can we survive!

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By: Spiking Spiking http://taxdayteaparty.com/?p=4235#comment-35667 2010-01-06T23:26:39Z 2010-01-06T23:26:39Z Paul,

I think that option is out of our hands. That’s why the whole country is so passionate right now. Rich people go to DC to join the old boys club.

Old boys don’t want to interact with taxpayers. They want to throw taxpayer money at problems.

Back in the 90s, or even a few years ago, that was good enough for the American people.

Now, people know that a passive approach to politicians brings pain.

That’s what Taxpayer approval of spending is all about. Do we want to be victims? Or customers?

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By: Paul P Paul P http://taxdayteaparty.com/?p=4235#comment-35638 2010-01-06T16:09:34Z 2010-01-06T16:09:34Z I am reminded of the story about the person who sees a group of people moving forward and the person says something like “wait one minute, there goes my party and I am their leader, I better get out in front of them”.

Why can’t an incumbent candidate see within the Tea Party Movement, something familiar, something sound, something principled and reinvigorating? Does such an incumbent exist?

If one believes he or she share our values and will demonstrate it, wouldn’t they want to step forward and lead? It certainly would speed the recovery of our nation. I don’t mean the economic recovery, I mean the recovery of our nation as a whole; as a Republic, by the people, for the people, and nothing less. Otherwise, I fear we may continue searching and searching for candidates, while our nation slips farther and farther away from the values for which we stand. Maybe there are none in Washington who share our beliefs.

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By: Frank Dungan Frank Dungan http://taxdayteaparty.com/?p=4235#comment-35636 2010-01-06T15:57:15Z 2010-01-06T15:57:15Z You are overlooking a serious problem…

This last election proved we have vote fraud taking place, at least two races logged more votes than registered voters.

As long as party bosses can produce pseudo votes we will never change things. We need a serious effort to monitor the voting process. If you have never read the book Vote Scam I suggest you do so.

FD

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By: Spiking Spiking http://taxdayteaparty.com/?p=4235#comment-35626 2010-01-06T09:10:45Z 2010-01-06T09:10:45Z Janet,

I don’t think that the media is opposed to us. Fox obviously likes us. MSNBC at least talks about us. Does anyone watch CNN or know what the non-cable media is saying about us?

Online, USA Today and MSNBC allow anyone to comment on their articles, real-time. The other media sites do also, although there may be moderation and delay.

The biggest “obstacle” to winning the House is the American people themselves. Do we have something they want?

I support allowing local candidates to represent their district as well as they can. That’s obviously going to mean different things in Massachusetts and Texas.

But I believe that the Tea Party needs to stand for something real. As Eric mentions, there isn’t much time.

Taxpayer approval of spending is the only real issue that I see out there. Everything else is already being done by Democrats and Republicans.

Candidate recruitment and publicity is obviously critical. And you guys are doing a fantastic job with that.

There are some Tea Partiers who may just want to stick with the Republican party. But Taxpayer approval of spending will greatly expand our base, and gain us support from the media.

And a word to those who worry about the Tea Party splitting votes with Republicans. THAT IS THE ABSOLUTE LAST THING THAT I WANT TO DO!!!!!!!!! I’m about getting MORE representation for the American people, not less.

For those who are really concerned about that, please start working on Instant Run-Off Voting. That’s where a candidate needs 50% to win, and you select a first preference, second preference, etc.

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By: Janet Griffin Janet Griffin http://www.GotTeaParty.com http://taxdayteaparty.com/?p=4235#comment-35617 2010-01-06T07:13:02Z 2010-01-06T07:13:02Z KEEP IT SIMPLE and STAY FOCUSED:
1) Support Scott Brown with time and $$
2) Keep meeting and fighting locally
to elect conservative in the primaries
3) Make plans to attend the April 15 Tax
Day Tea Party Rally in DC
4) Register for The Patriot Caucus at
Valley Forge April 16-18 to promote better organization
5) Work to support conservative candidates for the November election
6) Repeal legislation that was passed in this corrupt environment, or promote nullification at the state level
7) Stay engaged
8) We do have a positive message and core values, so just ignore the lies and keep showing that we are true patriots ready to defend the Constitution and take back our country.
THIS IS MY PLAN FOR THE TIME BEING. EVERY DAY IS A STRUGGLE, BUT WE CANNOT GIVE UP. I WILL NOT GIVE UP!

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By: Jen Jen http://taxdayteaparty.com/?p=4235#comment-35613 2010-01-06T05:49:00Z 2010-01-06T05:49:00Z bottom line: anyone who voted for the health care bill needs to be flipped out of their seat soundly and loudly! Create a $PAC that gives money to candidates we can support, that is, bearing in mind that a slightly stinky Republican is probably better than a sweety Democrit. That’s politics.

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